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cashmere, Conservation issues, goat mascot of Royal Welsh Fusiliers, goats of the Great Orme, Kashmiri goats
The herd of goats that roam Llandudno’s Great Orme is famous far and wide and for many visitors a sighting of them is a highlight of their trip. Sightings are often distant and to an extent dependent on the time of year, but they do wander as they browse and graze and can appear almost anywhere. I like to see them browsing on the steep limestone cliffs and watch them negotiate the narrow ledges with amazing and sometimes breath-taking agility. Up there they remind me that although their home is in a public Country Park, they are still wild animals within it.
These are Kashmiri goats, whose ancestors once roamed the mountains of Northern India. Their soft undercoats are the material that cashmere wool is spun from. The word cashmere is an old spelling of the Kashmir region in northern India and Pakistan.
The origin of the Great Orme goats and their arrival in Britain is attributed to Squire Christopher Tower, from Brentwood in Essex, who discovered a large herd which had recently been imported from Kashmir into France in the early part of the last century. His idea was to create a profitable woollen industry, so he purchased a pair of the goats, and took them to Weald Park in Brentwood. The goats flourished, and soon produced kids, from which the Squire was, eventually, able to manufacture a cashmere shawl. George IV was highly impressed by this article, and was happy to accept a pair of the goats presented to him by Squire Tower. So began the Windsor herd, which increased rapidly, and in the reign of Queen Victoria, cashmere shawls became extremely fashionable. It is often said that Queen Victoria was presented with the goats by the Shah of Persia, and it may be that these were added to the already existing herd.
Later in the Century, Major General Sir Savage Mostyn acquired two of the Windsor goats, and took them to the grounds of Gloddaeth Hall. It is possible that they were found to be unsuitable as park animals and the goats were transferred to the Great Orme. Over a period of almost a hundred years, these animals have existed virtually in isolation, and have evolved into the unique breed they now are. They have reverted to a wild state, and are now regarded as wild animals.
The size of the herd is said to be maintained at about 60, which is based on the optimum number of animals for the size of the territory available to them. The herd is made up of full grown billies, juvenile billies, nannies and kids. For most of the year, the nannies browse on the side of the mountain with their youngest offspring while the mature and immature billies roam in small groups away from them. They don’t mix until the Autumn rut.
A mature billy has enormous horns that curve backwards, almost touching the nape of his neck. A shaggy fringe covers the forehead and he sports a long beard. The horns are crenulated, with large ridges unevenly spaced along their length. It is possible to estimate the age of a billy by the ridges on its horns as each section represents one year’s growth. The horns of the young billies and the nannies are slim and delicate, curving gently backwards. In the nannies, the ridges are less obvious and ageing them is not so easy. Barring accidents, the goats will live for about nine years.
I believe the group I came across were nannies with a couple of new kids visible in the distance near the summit.
Goats will reputedly eat anything, but given choice, which these privileged individuals have, they can afford to be a bit choosier. Their vegetation species of choice are gorse, hawthorn, elder, bracken, bramble, ivy, stinging nettles and privet, according to the season. In the Autumn, they will browse on the grass, moving to the slopes where they can find a plentiful supply.
Although technically an alien, or introduced species to Great Britain, the goats are considered by many to be an integral part of the Great Orme environment and nowadays their grazing plays a part in maintaing the flora for which the headland is renowned. Not everyone appreciates them however, particularly when they wander into the garden areas on the lower slopes, or even into the town itself.
Their population has to be kept in check to ensure that competition for resources is not too great. This involves administering contraception to nannies to control the number of kids born each year, which appears to be working. Relocation of small groups to assist conservation in other areas of the country is carried out when the opportunity arises. In recent years 6 animals were relocated to Bristol’s Avon Gorge and 2 to a SSI on Anglesey.
Mascot of the Royal Welsh Fusiliers
A select few billy goats from the Great Orme herd have acheived fame as they have been chosen as the mascot of the Royal Welsh Fusiliers. Records suggest that The Royal Welch Fusiliers were parading a goat as early as 1777. Whenever possible the goats are selected from the royal herd which was started at Windsor in the time of Queen Victoria, who gave 23rd Foot their first ‘royal’ goat in 1844. This herd is now located at Whipsnade Animal Park. In recent times, when no goat was available from the royal herd, the Queen has been pleased to present a wild goat from the mountains of North Wales, where a herd still exists on the Great Orme at Llandudno. This herd is known to have some Windsor blood in its ancestry.

Royal Welsh regimental goat Lance Corporal Gwillam Jenkins
Lance Corporal Gwillam ‘Taffy VI’ Jenkins, died in May 2015 after nine years of dedicated service. Following his passing, Her Majesty the Queen was informed and her permission sought to select and recruit a new Regimental goat. Permission was kindly granted and the selection process started. His replacement, Llywelyn was recruited from the Great Orme in Llandudno, North Wales on the 23 November 2015. Only the most prominent and impressive young billy kid goat is considered for selection. Following an arduous survey of the wild herd, one particular Goat stood out and demonstrated more promise than the others – this was Llywelyn.
Llywelyn will lead the 1st Battalion The Royal Welsh on all ceremonial duties, leading parades through Welsh towns and cities during Freedom Parades, Medals parades and Armed Forces Day events. He has already been invited to parade in London as part of the Queen’s 90th Birthday celebrations and will also be detached to B (Rorke’s Drift) Company for the summer as part of the guard at Buckingham Palace.
- Information in this post is from various sources, but mostly derives from the booklet, Aliens on the Great Orme by Eve Parry.
How quirky to have a billy goat mascot in the Fusilliers! Great bit of history.
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Thank you Anny, these iconic goats are a fascinating topic, locally loved by many but not so popular with those who have gardens they can access in the winter! The Gt Orme belongs to the National Trust now, so hopefully they’ll resolve the issues in the goats’ favour. They gave my townie son-in-law a bit of a fright too, despite the fact there was a wall between them and us!
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Superb! I think Llywelyn has rather a cheeky look about him! No wild goats around my neck of the woods, for which if I’m honest I’m quite pleased, they’d give the Delinquent Dog a bit of a panic attack for certain 🙂
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Fascinating post and photographs – both the goats, and their habitat.
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Thank you John, I’m pleased you enjoyed it.
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Thanks Ruth, they are beautiful creatures and have a great presence. Apparently the males can be rather whiffy though, especially in the autumn! Hope you catch sight of them when you pass by the Gt Orme on the Coast Path.
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On holiday in a cottage, half-way up The Great Orme, we are literally face to face with a fine looking specimen through the window in our garden!
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Haha! A properly nosy neighbour! How do you feel about them? I know they can be a bit of a concern to people close to them, especially when they’re foraging further afield for food in the winter. And now there are sheep too… Hope you have good fences, or no garden!
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What wonderful goats! And great photos 😀
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What beautiful goats in such a rugged area. I’ve never seen them before. Are they considered endangered? You mentioned that they are relocated for conservation reasons.
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They are quite special aren’t they and although originally from India they look perfectly at home here in Wales! They’re not classed as endangered as they are not endemic to Britain, in fact they have been so successful here that measures are taken to control their numbers. Some have been relocated to other similar areas as they are perfect for grazing down rough vegetation that would otherwise smother out rare flora.
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Hi Val, I agree and think they enhance the Orme beautifully!
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How wonderful they look!
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Interesting post Theresa, we saw groups of feral goats when we were walking the South West Coast path last year in Dorset, I expect they do a great job at clearing or managing scrub, but they did not have such a beautiful coat as these Great Orme goats.
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Thank Julie, I’m pleased you found the post interesting. Goats are useful for keeping down scrub as they graze on the tough stuff sheep and rabbits don’t touch and of course can cope well with rocky terrain. The Gt Orme animals are rather more beautiful than your average goat and I envy them their warm cashmere coats!
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Thank you. Indeed, they look like perfectly normal earth-bound goats, although being white they may appear rather ghostly in the dark.
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Fascinating, Theresa. They don’t look alien at all.
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